Are Male Spankiees Less of a Man?

kdpierre

KDP, We all hold different opinions and all have different experiences of life that form those opinions. Even the so called experts contradict each other all the time.

My views on gender and social issues are generally in alignment with those expressed by people like Jonathan Haidt, Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson, yours maybe don't.

Generally when someone goes off on a rant the problem lies with them and not the person they are having go at. I don't need to justify what I believe and enjoy and neither do you.

Brosse6
True, you do have the right to be wrong.

My post countered your points in order and with explanation, and as such I am not sure where it qualifies as a "rant". I have done rants, and I am quite capable of ranting, but this wasn't one of them. Perhaps you just don't have any justification for your very narrow view and so are resorting to the "we all have our opinions" cop-out. True we all do. Some opinions however, have validity and others are just personal prejudices based on very limited experience. Experts do disagree. But some folks aren't even 'experts' and yet manage to get thinly-veiled digs in at others' expense. I like how you characterize my reaction to your snarky innuendo as really my problem, whereas I see it as confronting someone with a "problem".

kdpierre

Offence is in the taking and not in the expression of an opinion. If there is one thing the last five years should have taught the world; it is there are NO experts.

When opinions and ideas are shared on a forum it is to be expected that they will be diverse, unless a forum declares itself a safe space, in which case it becomes less of a forum and more of a propaganda platform.

Brosse6
All the last five years have taught us is that those without expertise feel very comfortable in an environment where personal opinion is regarded as equal to or even superior to the findings of experts who specialize in a field. I find those with this view to be mostly hypocritical though since I know of plenty who publicly declare the view that there are "NO experts", yet not one who doesn't seek one when they need special cancer treatment, or legal maneuvering, or financial planning. Not one of these people have ever gone to their next door neighbor and said, "hey Jack, are ya busy? I need my appendix out. You still have that reciprocating saw, don't you?"

When I grew up being an expert, or specialist, or whatever equivalent you prefer that characterizes someone who STUDIED something was regarded as enviable. Now people follow someone who never reads, always lies, and "listens to his gut" (which is massive). If that's your view, I can understand why you'd rather avoid countering my points and instead say that I'm the problem......because that too is something that has become popular in the last five years.

As for 'safe spaces'? Ummmm, who is retreating to to the corner with "that's my opinion, and this is YOUR problem" rather than hashing out the topic with points and counterpoints? You made some pretty off-the-wall assertions, but you don't seem prepared to support them. Instead, you are doing a pretty good job of deflection. Insulting a type of person's lifestyle (admittedly very subtly) and then claiming victimhood when called on it is another thing that has become popular with the same people who decry safe spaces and dismiss experts.

Lastly, your characterizations of certain lifestyles is more than just myopic, but derisive. And forums are also the place where those who take exception to derisive remarks can address those as well, and stand up for the truth of the matter. (It's something men do.) But you can hide behind platitudes if you'd like. That's your right as well......but it's not winning you any points with me.

kdpierre

I don't expect my doctor, airline pilot or engineer to be an expert, I expect him/her to be competent.

The term 'expert' these days is very often applied to someone who is paid to express an opinion that supports the desires of their sponsor.

You tell me my opinions are "more than just myopic, but derisive", but in doing so are not your views of my opinions also myopic and derisive?

I am not "insulting" anyone's lifestyle, but are there not people's lifestyles that you are not in accord with, or maybe you even despise?

Hopefully we will soon be leaving this current era where 'free speech' applies only to approved opinions.

Late to the thread I know but thought I'd add my two cents.

Is a male spankee less of a man? No.... unless of course he and the spanker enjoy the idea that he is, in which case go for it.

Oi Mush!
I take offence at that. I have fancy dressed to a unicorn party wearing a tutu and was punished, whilst wearing it, by a very dominant female and her scottish friend, they had instructions to break me and they tried very hard, delrins are no picnic with a young girl weilding them, but a woman with arms like Popeye!
So you can stick your little opinion where the sun doesn't shine!
Your "logic" isn't, it's purely your opinion, don't ever think you'd stand a chance as a lawyer, you'd end up with the death sentence.


That last sentence is your only accurate one. I enjoy pretending to be a sub to a younger woman. I enjoy role play, but that's what it is. It is definitely not reflected in the "real world" I get the impression that you and KDPierre think that life in the scene is like the stories on here.

Are you literate? Try re-reading what I wrote before insulting me. I am defending the type of behavior you described as having NO bearing on whether one is more or "less of a man". What are YOU reading?

You have the right to say whatever you want. Other people have the right to tell you that what you said is dumb. That's free speech.

This is true, but when you say the other person's opinion is "dumb" you have effectively lost the argument.

Sadly the internet age and the modern mainstream media have killed civilised debate.