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twisted8
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#31 | Posted: 2 Aug 2010 10:49
Thanks and I appreciated it.

blimp
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#32 | Posted: 2 Aug 2010 15:44
cfpub,

I have browsed your catalogue recently. The Fm section is very extensive but it seems, judging by the titles and the blurb, please correct me if I am mistaken, that your authors write stories specifically geared towards men. Is there a great deal of subtlely in these stories? I have never read one so I don't know but I can see that quite possibly women wouldn't be interested in reading them. In AKSS's, The Governess, there was an erotic content and they were often imaginative works of literary merit, exploring the psychology of dominance and submission, which is perhaps why they had some female readership. I hope that doesn't make me sound like a literary snob but I have always thought there was a psychological difference between the sexes.

On the whole women have subtler minds than men or perhaps it's just the women I have met. It is not that women are not interested in Fm fiction, it has got to be the right kind of Fm fiction. I think if you had been selling a different type of Fm fiction you would have found you had a significant female readership. Of course I could be entirely wrong!

cfpub
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#33 | Posted: 2 Aug 2010 17:47
Blimp,

I write almost all of the blurbs and it is difficult to sum up any story in three lines or so, more so after the first thousand or so, also since my own orientation is m/f, I may not do justice to the f/m stories. That said, I don't know any way to judge the quality of the stories but by reading a few. If you privately send me an email address, I will send you a couple to sample.
I also, of course, write the blurbs for the m/f and f/f stories, and even the m/m ones. All of these seem to attract a significant female readership.
I do agree that there is a difference in male and female appreciation of stories, thus the fact that my competitors, all women, publish mainly or exclusively romantic M/F stories.

CrimsonKidCK
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#34 | Posted: 2 Aug 2010 18:27
blimp:
I have browsed your catalogue recently. The Fm section is very extensive but it seems, judging by the titles and the blurb, please correct me if I am mistaken, that your authors write stories specifically geared towards men. Is there a great deal of subtlely in these stories? I have never read one so I don't know but I can see that quite possibly women wouldn't be interested in reading them. In AKSS's, The Governess, there was an erotic content and they were often imaginative works of literary merit, exploring the psychology of dominance and submission, which is perhaps why they had some female readership. I hope that doesn't make me sound like a literary snob but I have always thought there was a psychological difference between the sexes.

On the whole women have subtler minds than men or perhaps it's just the women I have met. It is not that women are not interested in Fm fiction, it has got to be the right kind of Fm fiction. I think if you had been selling a different type of Fm fiction you would have found you had a significant female readership. Of course I could be entirely wrong!

I think that there's a bit of a 'chicken-and-egg' issue here:

Does CF Publications publish F/M stories that primarily appeal to bottom-oriented male readers because its F/M customer base is almost exclusively male? Or is its F/M customer base almost exclusively male because the F/M stories it publishes are oriented towards bottom-oriented male readers?

Probably a bit of both, although I tend to lean toward the former causality scenario myself. While some female customers might buy F/M or F/m (teenaged boy) stories if they were written to appeal more to feminine readers, I'm not certain there would be enough demand for them to ensure profitability for a publisher. Obtaining such stories might require having some female authors contributing to the F/M literature available. (I'm figuring that most bottom-oriented male F/M writers will produce the type of stories that they personally find stimulating [I know that I do] and that will often be appealing to male readers of the same [femdom/malesub] spanking orientation.)

Does CF purchase and publish F/M stories from any female authors? (Offhand I don't remember many from browsing the offerings in the past, but there's a purportedly husband-and-wife writing team that may have had some F/M stories published by CF.)

In fact, how many female authors of spanking stories, including those posting on internet sites, write a significant amount of adult F/M stuff? (In other words, not including women who write and post mostly M/F, M/M and/or F/F material but occasionally produce an infrequent 'change-of-pace' F/M story.) Julnick (Julie) used to do so a decade or more ago, and I enjoyed her writing (notably "Into the Woods"), but her literary gender orientation seemingly shifted to predominantly M/M and then she apparently gave up producing spanking-oriented stories altogether.

I often like exploring the subtleties of relationships in a spanking story, but I do have to admit that if I'm buying an F/M or even F/F story (and CF's stories are clearly priced based on their length) to read--as opposed to viewing it for free on an internet site--then I'm likely to want it to get to the 'fantasy fodder' (spanking action) fairly quickly.

Which is why I'm suspicious that lengthier stories (of any gender orientation) based on in-depth characterization and relationship development simply might not be profitable to publish... --C.K.

PinkAngel
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#35 | Posted: 2 Aug 2010 18:47
This thread seems to have veered rather sharply off topic. We are a free resource with no commercial interest whatsoever, and as such, we really don't want the forum to be used for gaining publicity for commercial sites. So, back on topic again, I'd like to give my thoughts on the original question posed...

I personally prefer M/F writing as this is my preference in real life. What I really want to read about is the thoughts and feelings of the spankee, as much as anything. I guess that I identify with that the most and so that is what I look for.

However, having done a lot of validation on here I have also read stuff that I wouldn't have done by choice and I think I have found some new things that I can enjoy by doing so.

I guess the other thing that can make a difference whatever our sex, is whether we see ttwd purely as fantasy, or whether our fantasies can/do come true.

So in short I do think we all have our individual likes but I also think we should all try the unusual every now and then, just to see what we might be missing!

twisted8
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#36 | Posted: 3 Aug 2010 04:07
Here here! One of the reasons that I am so attracted to The Kilihara Library is the diversity of story types available and huge range of choices from which to sample. Apologies for being off topic. I do tend to go on at times. Sorry.

galt54
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#37 | Posted: 3 Aug 2010 04:19
I mostly enjoy M/F stories. But I also enjoy stories about female disciplinarians punishing naughty teenage girls.

chandra
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#38 | Posted: 17 Oct 2010 05:28
For me.nothing more exciting than reading or witnessing(which we do not do easily) a young female buttocks being spanked or caned by a mom or teacher.

Cal33
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#39 | Posted: 17 Oct 2010 19:42
Nearly all stories I've written are M/F, with the female spankee getting the tanning she deserved. But as a male, I am intrigued by stories in which the female actually wants to be spanked, even knowing how excruciating will be the pain. Why? What goes through her mind just before? Is there an element of mild masochism here? Is it sexual arousal by the heat and pain in that part of her anatomy? Expiation of guilt? Is she willing to endure it because she knows it pleases someone that she very much wants to please?

We have many talented female writers here at Kilahara. I'd be very much interested in reading stories they have written which explore the aspects of spanking mentioned above. Thanks!

rollin
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#40 | Posted: 18 Oct 2010 22:37
My observation is that in the genre of "spanking lit", female readers gravitate toward romances that are largely M/F and which have a love story theme. But such stories are not necssarily subtle in their approach to the spanking incidents themselves. There is a whole genre out there of "spanking romances" from purveyors on Amazon, Lulu, and Bethany's ABCD sites which feature quite descriptive spanking and sex scenes. In fact my main complaint about many of these is that there are too many spanking scenes which are overdone and not very realistic.
On two other boards that I post to, my heaviest commentary comes from female readers who seem to like my romances like Anne of Wulfstedt, The LaForge Trilogy, and Justice Delayed. What I think they like is the development of a romantic relationship and then the introduction of a spanking component that accompanies it.

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