Lose of the traditional punishment story

Perhaps I was that naive for a while? It’s complicated for several reason. First of all, spanking has always been sexual to me - in fact, my first memories of sexual arousal are about spanking, and only many years later did I realize that the sweat on my brow and that strange feeling in my stomach had something to do with sex (well, first I had to figure out what was sex was). Since then spanking has been some kind of parallel sexuality to me; as for many other spankos, it’s not the prelude to anything - it’s a goal in itself. This is almost impossible to explain to non-spankos (and if you succeed, they are likely to consider you sicker than they originally thought), and the lack of common ground opens up for all kind of misunderstandings. I was incredible slow in understanding the consequences this might have.

The second reason I would like to mention, is that since my spanking interest has been there since childhood, I have never given the middle aged man/young girl-combination all that much thought. When my fantasies started, I was of the same age as these girls, and somehow it has remained that way - if not in real life, so at least in my imagination. If a middle-aged man showed up in my fantasies, he was likely to be the girl’s father and not some projection of me - and I’d be happy just to watch.

A third reason, is that my sympathy and my identification is almost always with the spankee. It’s their experience and their emotions I’m primarily interested in, and it’s difficult to think that you are exploiting someone when all you are trying to get into, is their head!

Sometimes I read different threads on the forums and think the discussions would work better as a single thread. In this case, I agree with BashfulBob, that some of the comments made in this thread deserve their own thread. Bob also pointed out that the comments were numbered. Something I never noticed.

I think Hotspur may be suggesting time and place are factors. I think so too. I wrote a comment which reflected post WWII and my country. Maybe I'll use that to start a new thread.

I reread Smachtai's latest post (#36, lol). He's clarified his thinking quite nicely. Like BashfulBob, I'm not offended by Smachtai's definitions of "traditional" and "modern" spanking. It just so happens, that I like both.

When I read a traditional story, I like to imagine myself as the spankee. I still want to know the emotions and thought processes of both parties. But, since it's a punishment, I want to feel that it's deserved. That the punishment fit the crime. I want to believe that the spanker has performed ( preferably her) righteous duty and that I have atoned and been forgiven. Balance has been restored. Pain is part of the process. That's my spin on traditional.

One type of modern style spanking I used to enjoy is M/F, given otk. As much body contact as possible. No matter how the spanking proceeds, as a male, I pretty certain I'm going to enjoy it. I feel obliged to figure out what the female wants. I try to meet her expectations. I enjoy her pleasure. If we're having straight sex I'm not so accommodating.

My preferred modern, dynamic is F/M, DD. For that I need a caring, loving and willing partner. Sometimes the spankings are traditional. I need that. Sometimes the sexual elements, particularly aftercare, is most important. Role reversal is also nice. Sorry if I'm "over generalizing based on personal experience".

I would hate to see either traditional or modern stories disappear. I don't think they will.

My experiences are now only memories. Alas, " My best days are yesterdays." I'm just happy I remember them.

When I was growing up there was a HUGE number of school stories involving spanking (almost always boys) plus an abundance of comic strips involving both boys and girls in domestic spanking, though obviously pre-pubescent so no arousal was even hinted at. I THINK there were stories involving girls being spanked or caned in girls' comics too though they tended to be set in a faroff generation (e.g. Victorian) with casual cruelty. So basically if you want to write a credible traditional school spanking story you have to make it historical and IMO preferably not sexual whereas the modern story involving people enjoying their kink, often with a sexual element, is in many ways easier to conceive and write though you still have to find the "angle" that makes the story interesting.

I don't yet see any female contributions in this discussion although we do have a large contingent of female readers and authors and I'm always interested in what they want to see from a story here.