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Cal33
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#41 | Posted: 16 Nov 2010 22:49
flopsybunny:
I shall go into business and set up a residential 'training' course for prospective spanko writers. Bring a pencil, notebook and a paddle!

Where do i sign up! Do you take Visa?

cfpub
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#42 | Posted: 16 Nov 2010 23:43
kdpierre:
cfpub: You seem to be unwilling to accept that fiction includes both fantasy writing and cfpub: You seem to be unwilling to accept that fiction includes both fantasy writing andstories that are derived from reality. A Tale of Two Cities is not based on the android rebellion on two cities on Alph Omega Three while Alice in Wonderland is obvious fantasy. Do you really not see a significant difference between the two?

Actually I am quite aware of the difference, although I am not as certain as you that there is a bright line between the two. I think the point I was trying to make is that most spanking fiction tends towards the fantasy side of the blurry line and that this is not a Bad Thing.

To delve a bit deeper, suppose that Dickens had written A Tale of Two Cities in a world in which the French Revolution had not happened, would this make it a lesser book? Does it bother you that Jonathan Swift never actually visited Lilliput nor knew anybody who had? Given the basically spankless nature of present Anglo-American societies, should the Library accept only stories set in the past or future UK or USA or areas where English is not the national language?

kdpierre
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#43 | Posted: 17 Nov 2010 04:39
cfpub: I am not saying that the library should restrict its content, I'm merely expressing my preference for stories that are less fanciful and lean in the direction of actual adult consentual spanking as it plays out in the real world either in a BDSM context or a Domestic Discipline context. And I fully concede that:

1: my preference is just that.....my preference, nothing more
2: Literature need not be based in reality to be a good piece of writing.

Now to your question about Dickens and "A Tale..." If the French Revolution did not happen and his work was fictional in every aspect, it would still be a good piece in that it dealt realistically with issues of human nature as observed by Dickens (who was pretty damned good at it). However, he did base it during the French Revolution, so how plausible would the story be if he had Darnay escape not the guillotine but the gas chamber not by trading places with a lookalike but by being rescued from prison by elves while still presenting the story as a drama within the historical reality of the French Revolution?

I think our basic disagreement stems from one point which you brought up a couple of times and can be characterized by your recent "spankless nature" of societies. I do not see our society as spankless at all and I often have the sore butt to prove it. For me spanking is not fantasy. For others it may be. And this difference may very easily explain my preferences in stories versus theirs.

cfpub
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#44 | Posted: 17 Nov 2010 16:08
kdpierre,

Since we seem to be converging in this thread, I will try not to refan the flames, I would just note that by "spankless nature of our society", I was referring to the paucity of teenagers being spanked by their parents, office workers being spanked by their superiors, court ordered paddlings for minor misdemeanors, and the like in what is often referred to as "real life." I didn't mean to imply that the citizens of what one of favorite writers dubbed "spanking land" do not practice the ancient and honorable rite of spanking among themselves.

Cal33
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#45 | Posted: 18 Nov 2010 14:32
You know, I actually enjoy our stories where the theme is schoolgirls and boys getting a well-deserved paddling by the teacher or headmaster. We all know, of course, that today, any teacher or school official who gives a student a playful swat on the bottom, let alone a full blown spanking, can look forward to some time in the courtroom.

So when I see a story with a school spanking theme, I don't have to ask myself, Could this happen? Of course not. It occurs only in 'Spanking World,' that mythical place in our minds where young bottoms can always be spanked, and their owners made a better student for it. I hope those who write school spanking stories will continue to favor us with this enjoyable sub-genre of spanking fiction.

tiptopper
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#46 | Posted: 19 Nov 2010 03:10
Cal33,

Actually spankings can occur in schools. In the USA 20 states allow paddlings in public schools. Pupils in Texas get paddled the most often, thousands of them each year. And only 2 states that I know of outlaw corporal punishment in private schools. Of course these paddlings are only up to 5 or 6 strokes over clothing for each offense and not the lengthy spankings that you read about in fictional spanking stories, but they do occur.

If you would like to see a video of a real school paddling go on the internet to TruTv, "The Principal's Office, Nancy's Punishment". You don't actually see the punishment but you see everything before and after it and you hear 17 year old Nancy getting 3 "licks" of the paddle off camera. That video is on several other sites on the internet as well.

Wrestler24
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#47 | Posted: 20 Nov 2010 14:24
As long as there are conservative parents--especially religious ones--there will always be domestic spanking. Rest assured that hundreds of teenagers were spanked yesterday. And hundreds more will be spanked today. And while even us spankos oppose it in real life, let's admit that, for many of us, the thought of a firm juvenile bare bottom being spanked is very appealing.

Sebastian
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#48 | Posted: 21 Nov 2010 01:32
In many of the 20 states, there are no actual stipulation as to the degree of the punishment. Therefore, generally, anything goes. Usually, the punishment is relatively mild, but don't always count on it. In private schools, it could be almost the same as these stories. It can happen. I have heard of one incident in a girls private religious school, in the early 1960's, where they were punished on the bare, with the strap and the cane which is unusual with the cane in the USA. One girl received 4 strokes with the cane. After the 3rd stroke, she passed out. She was revived and then given the fourth stroke. I was told of this story. This library might not be that far off.

Seegee
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#49 | Posted: 21 Nov 2010 08:25
If that's at all true, Sebastian, I find that sort of behaviour barbaric and abhorrent.

ordalie
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#50 | Posted: 21 Nov 2010 18:24
Well, I'm sorry but I don't! I'm sick and tired of teenagers being disrespectful in words and deeds to their parents and to those who used to be called "their betters".
I know everything stems from education, but you sometimes find it hard to educate rebellious teenagers.
So I'm all for spankings, I'm sure it's a deterrent form of punishment!

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