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gail
Female Author

Canada
Posts: 333
#21 | Posted: 5 Feb 2013 22:17
Guy:
MPs have approved same-sex marriage in England and Wales

Goody !! More potential members of the Sapphic Circle - point them my way, Guy !

mobile_carrot
Male Author

England
Posts: 317
#22 | Posted: 5 Feb 2013 22:44
The interesting point to me is that half of the CONSERVATIVE party, including of course the Prime Minister voted in favour of same sex marriage. Can't see that happening soon in America.

titch
Male Member

England
Posts: 104
#23 | Posted: 5 Feb 2013 23:01
smeple:
My guess is more taxes on the common folk

Who you calling common <wg> Just because I talk a bit rough! I'm a good lad me! (honest)

If he was in the car park all this time, I assume his horse was either towed away, clamped or pinched by one of those common folk!

catmama
Female Member

USA
Posts: 126
#24 | Posted: 6 Feb 2013 02:18
Lincoln:
Don't take Shakespeare's version of Richard III too seriously although it is a wonderful play. WS had to say the "right things" about Richard III as Henry VII, the usurper, was Queen Elizabeth I's Grandfather, and he had to follow the party line.

Oh, I know that. It was a wonderful play though. It seems that things had to be PC even back then.

barretthunter
Male Author

England
Posts: 1015
#25 | Posted: 6 Feb 2013 14:26
Lincoln:
Don't take Shakespeare's version of Richard III too seriously although it is a wonderful play. WS had to say the "right things" about Richard III as Henry VII, the usurper, was Queen Elizabeth I's Grandfather, and he had to follow the party line.

I agree about Shakespeare's propaganda, but "usurper" is a bit strong. Henry VII was the Lancastrian claimant and the rival Yorkists, of whom Richard III was the last, owed their position to Richard's brother overthrowing the undisputed "rightful" king, Henry VI.

Mind you, there are those of us who agree with 14th century Scots propagandists and 17th century radical politicians in arguing that no English monarch after 1066 was legitimate (at least until William III ("King Billy"), whose kingship was specifically awarded by Parliament). Now how many people have I offended?

barretthunter
Male Author

England
Posts: 1015
#26 | Posted: 6 Feb 2013 14:28
Including those who rightly object to brackets within brackets?

Alef
Male Author

Norway
Posts: 1033
#27 | Posted: 6 Feb 2013 14:41
barretthunter:
Including those who rightly object to brackets within brackets?

Oh, we mathematicians simply adore brackets within brackets!

Lincoln
Male Author

England
Posts: 282
#28 | Posted: 6 Feb 2013 15:27
barretthunter:
I agree about Shakespeare's propaganda, but "usurper" is a bit strong. Henry VII was the Lancastrian claimant and the rival Yorkists, of whom Richard III was the last, owed their position to Richard's brother overthrowing the undisputed "rightful" king, Henry VI.

I so enjoy crossing historical swords with BH - it adds to the spice of life!

Henry VII's claim to the throne was very shaky indeed, which is probably one reason why he killed off all the claimants who might conceivably threaten him - both young and old, male and female. As his name suggests, he was the son of a Welsh nobleman, and his grandmother was briefly married to Henry V. His mother was of the House of Lancaster from the line of John of Gaunt. Henry VII's rebellion was supported mainly by French troops, and Richard could well have won Bosworth had it not been for the change of sides by the professional side-changer William Stanley, (he changed sides once too often under Henry VII and lost his treacherous life as a result).

Having said that, Henry was undoubtedly the man for the job, and can take credit for bringing an end to the Wars of the Roses, which had so devastated the country.

drkeate
Male Author

England
Posts: 62
#29 | Posted: 7 Feb 2013 10:07
I hear that ATOS, the company that decides whether someone is eligible for disability benefits, has declared King Richard fit for work

jools
Female Author

New_Zealand
Posts: 801
#30 | Posted: 7 Feb 2013 10:14
So proud to be British! By birth at least!

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