Using ChatGPT to write spanking stories

@ Goodgulf

I once read an article about a games company. (Around 1980, when games were produced on cardboard and the figures were made from wood. Not to mention, the article was printed on paper. I know that is a strange concept.)

They had a few game developers with a massive output of games. The article said, that they simply changed a few words in the game manual (aka rules) of a game from a new game proposal and named one of their developers as the developer making it a new game. In one instance the real developer went to court and lost since the court ruled that the changed words made it a new game. Which proves that you need lots of money if you want to create a lawsuit. I think the lawsuit created a percentage of changes necessary.

As for stories I think you need to change the character names. Lets say we got a novel where Flopsybunny burns Goodgulf at the stake. Goodgulf doing the witch water test with Flopsybunny would be a new story even though the result would be the same, but the use of the names would most likely be a copyright infringement

@ all

Does google translate transfer your 'copyright' to google ?

I had to realise google has a big problem with gender and math. When i used 'SIE' as in 3rd person female singular it translated is as 3rd person plural, but if I used 'SIE' as in 3rd person plural the translation was 3rd person singular female. In other words google translate turned 2 boys into 1 girl or 1 girl into multiple persons.

I've heard of 'trap streets' - non-existent streets added to an unimportant part of a map in order to prevent others copying the original cartographer's work', the alleged inclusion of ciphers in Shakespeare's plays that prove - if you believe them - that they were written by someone else, and the various hidden marks to prevent forgery of banknotes. I suspect a lot of artists and authors will resort to such methods in future to prevent their work being 'scraped' - a polite word for stolen.

One of the great disadvantages of these algorithms is that they're 'trained' not on the best writing, but on what's available - books so old they're out of copyright, and writing posted on the internet because no publisher would touch it. They also, I understand, copy the frequency that a concept or phrase turns up - so the more of a cliche something is, the more likely they are to include it. The exact opposite of original writing!

@ myrkassi

Map makers, reminds me of a German map maker who invented Amerika... ...now more than a hundert years later he would wish that there was copyright back then.

I admit, Germans were probably better map makers than sailors.

You can't copyright, patent, or trademark a concept. If you were to rename all the properties in Monopoly, have a start square as opposed to the Go square, rename the jail as the clink, change all the cards, etc - you could legally publish it because while the rules sheet is copyrighted and there are various trademarks, they can't protect the method of play.

You could also rewrite the rules to D&D and call it Pathfinder. There's no way to protect the game system, just the specifics of the game. Role three 6 sided dice for stats. role a 20 sided die to determine success - that can't be protected.


You have to do a bit more than just change the names. For example, I can't take an ecopy of Harry Potter and do a search and replace to make it Jerry Potter, but someone can (and did) write a story about Harry Pothead (a weed smoking wizard). https://www.amazon.ca/Hairy-Pothead-Stoned-Sorcerer-Potter/dp/0615881238

Lord of the Rings was rewritten as Bored of the Rings. Twilight FanFic was rewritten as 50 Shades of Grey, and anyone can write a version of a Star Trek story by shifting things around a bit.

I posted a super hero story here that included reinvented version of the Bat Man universe. Bat Man was called Owl Man, Wonder Woman was called The Amazon, etc. But the characters were more than merely renamed. Owl Man fights crime as a last resort, focusing on creating economic opportunities. The Amazon left her enclave to find her father (Aries), The Judge (Two Face) flips a custom coin to determine if someone needs a spanking, Cat Lady smells of cat pee - committing crimes so she can afford to rehome the 60 or 70 (I forget) cats that her great-aunt (who raised her) has.

Was that story inspired by DC comics? Sure. That's clear at a glance. Is it different enough not to challenge any trademarks or copyrights? Yes.

I posted another one that is obviously inspired by Shazam!, but again, the characters and setting is different.

Back to the original topic, I think that you would have to train an AI with hundreds, thousands, or tens of thousands spanking stories before it could write one worth reading. Alas, it doesn't seem as if anyone is training AIs that way.

I briefly tried AI and the result was yuck. The movie theater in my mind is the best AI, although it doesn't write the words.

May I ask which programs and sites you all have tried? ChatGPT keeps censoring anything I try to make it write. I tried Dreampress.ai as well, but it keeps crashing on me without anything getting written. NovelAI and Storybird seem to come with a cost. I would be looking for site where I can throw in some 1000 - 2000 words as a plot outline and see what happens, preferably with a free trial.

@Glagla

I'm currently using NovelAI and it's far superior than everything else I tried. It does come with a cost though, but you have a free trial with 50 free text output generations (which isn't much, but already good enough to give a good idea of the AI capabilities)

Giving it 1000-2000 words as a plot outline is actually exactly how you need to use NovelAI as unlike ChatGPT it's not an instruct model, instead NovelAI tries to continue whatever story you're writing, mimicking the author style. I would recommend watching a video on YouTube on how it works as for me it was very confusing at first as I was used to ChatGPT.

Thanks Robertz, I'll search for a walk-through video and then see if I can get it to work