Fraternities and Sororities and spanking

But just because there's theoretically zero tolerance for it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. There was a recent example from AL where to "celebrate" a freshman making varsity about 20 players kicked the shit out of him in the locker room with no one trying to stop them (although thankfully one guy recorded it and sent it to the victim's sister). They put him in the hospital for surgery to fix his broken arm and gave him a concussion as well. Four of the players got arrested and the family is suing the school district because (in part) they claim the coaching staff has been aware that it happens but haven't tried to stop it. Pretty dumbass way to treat your teammate (or I should say ex-teammate because he's transferring schools now).

Maybe I should have said it doesn't happen openly and the people involved get slammed when it does. Gone are the days when the coach lured the rookies to where the senior team members would haze them. Gone are the days of publicly talking about and school administrators joked about it.

Now, okay, I can remember a case where some rookie had to drink a dozen cups of coffee. Not shots, not beers, coffee, and when he freaked out because of the caffeine in his system students got expelled. Yes, people still get hazed and initiated, but anything they do is treated as a criminal offense when it gets out.

I don't know if it's true and I don't recall where I heard it, but somewhere I was told that after WWII all the GIs came back and a lot went to school on the GI Bill, and some 19 year old told one of them to bend over and the 19 year old got the paddle shoved you know where. End of hazing at that time.

So, I am reading these posts and wondering: do you all somehow nostalgically regret that hazing is currently in disfavor, or are you glad that open acceptance of it is a relic of the past?

I have never experienced hazing, although I did encounter a few individual bullies when growing up - but I would say that hazing is a species of physical persecution and exploiting someone who is weak (by means of ganging up on him or her so that he or she is outnumbered and therefore cannot fight back) - and therefore I do not wish for a return to the policy of hazing.

Even though I enjoy fantasies involving attractive sorority college girls being spanked or paddled or caned on their bare bottoms in a hazing ritual (especially in a coed environment).

There was a rumour about something called 'The Royal Flush' at my high school when I first entered it. The procedure was that the bigger, older boys would hold a younger, smaller boys head in the toilet and then flush it. It may have happened once but I never saw or heard of it actually happening at any school I went to. Hazing and bullying is now being stamped out, hopefully for good. In some respects it may go back to the practice of 'fagging' at British public schools and the prefects and head boys being able to physically discipline fellow students.

Hazing still goes on, but it is more clandestine, for as many have pointed out it is now illegal and considered unacceptable. And from time to time there are stories in the news of hazing rituals going wrong, someone injured or. even dying, of people being arrested or expelled from school. Recall some years ago -and remember it coming up on the World Spanking Forum chat- a case at Rutgers University where a pledge was so brutally paddled that she ended up in the emergency room. I believe charges were brought.
One thing people don't like to discuss is that black Greek organizations have a history of brutal hazing and initiation rites, even including branding with the initials of the fraternity. Someone told me he had a black colleague who had one of those brands.
Don't have much use for college frats, absolutely refused to have anything to do with them with I was in school. Snobbery, racism, alcohol abuse, gang rape(often after the women have had drugs slipped into a drink) are aspects associated with fraternity life. Sororities are probably more innocuous, but sure they have their share of snooty attitudes and conformism.
To be fair though some things done to newbies in groups are merely harmless pranks. Like telling a rookie on a baseball team to go fetch the key to the pitcher's box!

The college I went to did not allow fraternities or sororities. We did have what had once been a private home owned by the college and turned into a men's dorm. it served as a fraternity, but wasn't allowed to be called one. A person could only live there if invited by the other residents. There was no paddling, but they did have an initiation. The new member had to sit naked in a tub of ice water and sing a song. I was told no one had ever made it all the way through the song.
There was one boy who was given a birthday spanking. He had entered college at the age of 16, and on his 17th birthday, several guys caught him in the gym, pulled down his pants (but kept his underpants up) and gave him 17 licks apiece. He did mildly protest at some point during the second or third round of spanks, but took it with pretty good grace. I watched and was invited to participate, but declined. I thought he had already had enough, and male male spanking was never my kink.
The seniors were allowed to initiate the freshmen every year, but this did not include spanking. What the freshmen had to do was mostly harmless, but sometimes went too far. I felt really bad for the girl who was crowned freshman queen by having a gallon of tomato paste dumped on her head. Some of the tomato paste got in her eyes.

I went to a select school which had an unusually large number of fraternities and sororities in view of its high academic standing. They hazed then, there have been all sorts of campaigns against it, but they still haze and try to keep it quiet. The University supports keeping them because it otherwise cannot house all of its students and because the houses have huge alumni(ae) support. I didn't join one because they were and are a disgrace to any university that takes education seriously. I also was perfectly capable of making my own friendships based on my own choices. That I personally have always been fascinated by and enjoy spanking, etc., does not change my view. The fraternities and sororities should remain in our literature, such as Martin Pyx's delightful novels, not on college campuses.

Paddling took place in mid-late 90s. Hazing of fraternity pledges was officially banned but still widespread. My fraternity only paddled on big brother night but it was bare bottom licks with the frat paddle and my girlfriend was shocked at the bruises she saw several days later. I know other fraternities used more widespread paddling during pledging, including other chapters of my fraternity at other schools. Also later heard from a girl from another school that at about that time her sorority (a local one) paddled their pledges, but to my knowledge (sadly) none of the sororities at my school did.