You're a grown-up, you don't have to take a spanking if you don't want to

Lots of well-reasoned points raised, not sure how much more I could add. I certainly understand her concerns; I struggle with similar issues trying to write adult stories which is why ~90% of mine are <18. It's hard sometimes to convince yourself that what you're writing sounds plausible, even though this is a fiction site where literally anything goes and you've got a fairly receptive audience.

All or my stories involving spanking are the absolute truth.

Many, many years ago when Great Grandfather Raptor and his new bride arrived from England the ship docked at Pier 21 in Halifax. The first thing he saw was a bunch of guys playing shinney (pick up hockey game) on the ice. Granddad Raptor joined in. He was a natural. Al most at once he intercepted a pass that led to a break away... that's how the family ended up in Western Canada 3500 hundred miles away.

Homesteading was a tough life and it was some cold on the bald prairie living as the original Raptors did in a soddy (sod hut.) Firewood was at a premium so Grandma Raptor gathered buffalo chips (frozen buffalo turds) to supplement the wood supply. To conserve the wood and the chips, Grandfather Raptor would wake up every two hours, place Grandma across his lap, turn up her bear skin nightgown to her ears, and spank her ample bare behind until it glowed.

Now, I don't know if this was consensual or not, but it certainly warmed Grandma up during those long winter nights and needless to say the Raptors eventually thrived in the new country.

Here I stand as proof. I am not making this up.

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Most of what I have written are semi-realistic, semi-consensual stories of spankings between adults – simply because that's what turns me on (and probably because I have a vague - and by now totally unrealistic - hope that such a relationship might happen to me). I try to make the stories as plausible as possible (again because that's what turns me on), but the plausibility is to a large extent in the eye of the beholder - what may seem almost plausible to a spanko, may seem totally unrealistic to a non-spanko.

The term "semi-consensual" covers a lot of ground, from partners in a "consensual nonconsent" relationship to vanillas agreeing to getting spanked to please their partners or to clear their conscience (or, more realistically, a combination of the two). In the same way, the term "vanilla" (in the sense of "non-spanko") covers a lot of ground, from people who are totally turned off by the idea of spanking, to people who can relate to part of the idea – they may, e.g., be attracted to the physical side of having their bottom slapped in bed, or they may be attracted to the psychological side of atoning for their sins through punishment.

In most of my stories, at least one of the characters is clearly a spanko, although they may not acknowledge it even to themselves, and the other main character is a borderline case – someone with a reluctant fascination with spanking that becomes clearer as the story develops. I try to write the stories in such a way that the spanking seems to be the natural "solution" to the problems between the characters – a solution that is grudgingly accepted even by the person on the receiving end.

In between the stories about adult couples, I relax by writing teenage spanking stories set - rather vaguely - at a time and a place where the spanking of teenagers is the norm rather than the exception. It is a great relief not having to come up with semi-plausible psychological reasons for why the spankees are accepting their punishments!

The first thing to accept is that we are all different in so many ways we can't even list them! I have been baffled previously when someone has made a comment on one of my own stories questioning the plausibility when I have read many more that stretch the credibility to breaking point with no adverse comments. They are all fiction (or based on an actual event maybe) and I know believable plots are more important to some than others, but we will remain diverse in what is and is not acceptable to each of us. Trying to figure out the answers to such questions can sometimes cause the brain to implode. By all means, ask the questions, but don't get hung up on them, simply enjoy, or not!

Maybe the truer delineation for consent has to do with how 'consent' itself can work in real life. If we are to hold that adults are always the masters and mistresses of their own fates people would never pay their debts, keep their word, or even attend a boring wedding. After all, you're an adult......you don't have to do any of these things...............you just need to be prepared for the consequences if you don't.

In the case of adult spanking, a person could "want" to live such a lifestyle, choose to do so, and still not "want" or "enjoy" every spanking they get. But they go along with it because it is 'part of the deal'.

Rosa and I live this way, and technically given my size, I could refuse any spanking, but I don't....and in agreeing to even one I don't really 'want', I am giving a kind of consent in that moment. But look at parental punishments of teens. One could argue that any healthy-sized teen could just as easily shove their disciplinarian aside and run for the hills. So if they don't are they giving a kind of consent? Or avoiding a consequence for non-compliance?

The two situations described in the OP are NOT the only ways to write a spanking story for adults......although, in my opinion, they are the two worst ways to go. And besides, in writing about a consensual or even semi-consensual lifestyle of spanking, doesn't the issue of an adult agreeing to such treatment offer excellent emotional ground to explore that is complex and gritty? Reading a fictional account or embellishment of a spanking that is rooted in reality intrigues me more than the most clever contrivance or outlandish fantasy world.

Over my life I've heard probably a couple of dozen men say that after they fought back for the first time, it was the last spanking they ever got (or almost got). I think it's way more common than we think for childhood spankings to end that way for good. (For boys, that is. Girls, being weaker, are dependent on their parents' decision of when to stop.)

Yes, I know there are all kinds of reasons why a spanking might be accepted even though you don't 'have to', and you gave me a few perfectly good reasons which I would accept without hesitation in a story. All cool. But my original question was about a specific kind of writing, in which I felt crucial assumptions pertinent to the story were simply omitted; suddenly someone is over someone else's knee without so much as a nod towards any unspoken assumptions about their story world.

Yes, I hear myself; yes, I am being super-uptight about this, yes I need to majorly chill...

My feeling is that in such stories the author's "duty" normally is to show in a convincing way why one party has a justified reason for thinking the other party deserves a spanking, and then to describe how the other party grudgingly comes to admit that this is indeed the case. I cannot see that the author is under any obligation to explain the details behind this agreement by, e.g., interrupting the narrative to tell that four months previously David and Irene had made a pact under which etc. etc. Of course, the author may include such details if he or she wants to, but in most cases I feel it would just make the story feel heavy-handed.

Well, sometimes you just get a silly comment on one of your stories, it can't be helped. I dearly appreciate all the comments that I get, but sometimes it's painfully obvious that someone wrote it just to be able to read more stories (I ran into that block during my first visit to this site), or the comment is just plain weird. I recall what a huge laugh I had when I read the review in one of our more serious newspapers, on the Mortal Kombat movie when it came out long ago. It actually stated "No credible plot" and I thought that, well, they have a point there, but - come on! I guess some people just can't see a story for what it is, it's entertainment. I think everyone should be allowed to speak their mind, but I also think that when you have no suggestion of improvement - don't complain. But don't let comments get to you. Most comments that might seem negative are probably not ill meant, they just came out that way. Keep writing stories the way you like them, you have a large audience out there who appreciates what you do.

And again, in my opinion, that type of story would have no appeal to me whatsoever. It would be like the difference between a complex love story which includes a hot sex scene and a cheap porno where no one cares how the sex act comes about, as long as it is explicit. I would watch the love story, but I would not waste my time on the porno....................but again, that's just me and I know I'm in the minority on this. But that's not any different than any aspect of pop culture that a lot of people enjoy that I don't.

Plausibility and reality, fine words but as a reader of fiction, i visit the world of the authors reality and plausibility, i visit their world as i like their reality, i visit as i like their world.

Think how much more successful JK Rowling would have been, if she wrote plausible reality based stories

Let us appreciate the variety of stories here on LSF, there is always one that will be to your taste. Some will be flavours that you know and trust, others classics with a twist, and others will have you thinking WTF. As they say variety is the spice of life, i see reality in day to day life, sometimes good sometimes less so, but when it comes to fiction here on LSF i can most of time have good all the time, and happily leave my own reality at the library door