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warthur
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USA
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#31 | Posted: 20 Feb 2023 18:41
Greetings All,

I am always extremely impressed (awed is probably a better word) by how seriously you regard the genre we all love. You have shared a lot of great advice and ideas, saying most of what I would have said. I will add three things based on my experience. First, I would suggest reading Stephen King's book, On Writing. It's probably the best writing book I've ever read (and I've read more than a few). Many of the suggestions here seem to have come directly from his text. Second, when I first started writing for the genre over twenty years ago, I had some doubts about how what I was writing would be received. My first publisher told me not to worry about it, that if I liked it, others would too. I have fully embraced that concept. You have to accept that not everyone will appreciate what you write, so write what you like and don't worry about the potential audience (just make sure it's your best writing). My wife, who loves all things spanking even more than I do, doesn't like my stories because they generally take too long to get to the 'good part.' However, I don't write just to get to the 'good part.' I like to explore characters and motivations, especially in different settings and situations. In fact, in answer to one of the questions asked, I have adapted two of my stories into mainstream by taking out the actual spanking. Third (and last), originality, of course, is always a concern. However, I have written hundreds of stories and novellas and would like to believe I haven't written the same story twice. I am always amazed to realize I still have a well of untapped ideas.

So, please keep writing and sharing. It is indeed a privilege to be a part of LSF and the Library.

astrosmurf
Male Member

Denmark
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#32 | Posted: 20 Feb 2023 22:03
Thanks DianaMiller and warthur for your replies. It is extremely interesting to read people's thoughts on the questions, and also your experiences with the writing process! Some comments below.

DianaMiller:
I'm a bit late to the party, but I hope I may still answer the questions, for what it's worth.

That's perfectly all right! In fact, if you had replied a few days ago, I might actually have exploded from information overload!


DianaMiller:
I've got a story published on this site which I knew beforehand wasn't going to be popular. I wrote it as part of a challenge, and that's what it was. Challenging and amazingly fun to write. It might not appeal to the masses, but the few comments I did get were very flattering and I cherish that.

Now I'm curious. What you mind telling us what story it was?

DianaMiller:
However long you want to let your story sit between writing and editing, it is wise to do the writing and editing at different times, because those activities require different areas of your brain. When I can't think of the right words to describe something or what I've written sounds off, I highlight it and come back to it later, to not disturb my writing flow.

Interesting, though I'm not sure I understand completely. When I reread something the editing tends to happen automatically, as I notice things that should be changed. I'll then mark the text so I can get back to it later. Maybe that is also what you do?

DianaMiller:
Your story idea definitely sounds interesting so far, Astrosmurf, go for it!
(and sorry for my long response)

Thank you very much and you certainly don't have anything to apologise for!!

warthur:
I am always extremely impressed (awed is probably a better word) by how seriously you regard the genre we all love.

I concur wholeheartedly!

warthur:
First, I would suggest reading Stephen King's book, On Writing. It's probably the best writing book I've ever read (and I've read more than a few).

Thanks, I should check that out!

warthur:
My first publisher told me not to worry about it, that if I liked it, others would too. I have fully embraced that concept. You have to accept that not everyone will appreciate what you write, so write what you like and don't worry about the potential audience (just make sure it's your best

That is encouraging!

warthur:
In fact, in answer to one of the questions asked, I have adapted two of my stories into mainstream by taking out the actual spanking.

Very interesting. I don't suppose you could be persuaded to elaborate on this? Do you write for a living?

opb
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England
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#33 | Posted: 20 Feb 2023 22:33
With regard to the 'leaving the story to rest' idea, I don't know what an optimum time would be. Certainly one needs to edit away furiously during the writing phase, but it's after you think it's finished that the resting time begins. Really you need to leave it long enough so that you can't remember exactly what you wrote so that your eyes are fresher. More than a week I'd say.
However...
I have a story that has been in the process of writing for a decade, nowhere near finished, and I read it from time to time, on each occasion tweaking something which seems right to me now. It is certain that I have edited some things away from and subsequently back to their original form.

And yes, the Woman of the Well is definitely KDP's best work, it's one of my favourites, there's something about the evokation of place and particular time in the protagonist's life that makes it stand out. Oh, there are spankings in it too, more than one, but I think that it is those other aspects of coming of age and into oneself which are more important.

astrosmurf
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Denmark
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#34 | Posted: 21 Feb 2023 01:37
opb:
With regard to the 'leaving the story to rest' idea, I don't know what an optimum time would be. Certainly one needs to edit away furiously during the writing phase, but it's after you think it's finished that the resting time begins. Really you need to leave it long enough so that you can't remember exactly what you wrote so that your eyes are fresher. More than a week I'd say.

Interesting. That would require some serious self-discipline for me, I think.

opb:
I have a story that has been in the process of writing for a decade, nowhere near finished, and I read it from time to time, on each occasion tweaking something which seems right to me now. It is certain that I have edited some things away from and subsequently back to their original form.

Wow. How long is it? (The story, I mean!)

DianaMiller
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Netherlands
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#35 | Posted: 21 Feb 2023 12:10
astrosmurf:
Now I'm curious. What you mind telling us what story it was?

It's 'A Human's Needs'

astrosmurf:
When I reread something the editing tends to happen automatically, as I notice things that should be changed. I'll then mark the text so I can get back to it later. Maybe that is also what you do?

Oh yes, but I specifically meant when I'm still writing, so the story isn't even finished yet. English isn't my native language so sometimes I can't readily think of the right English terms to describe what I want to describe. Rather than disrupt my writing flow to go search the internet for the words I need, I might quickly note it down in my own language or use an English synonym and highlight it so I can get back to it later, when rereading.

kdpierre
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USA
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#36 | Posted: 21 Feb 2023 13:24
opb:
And yes, the Woman of the Well is definitely KDP's best work, it's one of my favourites, there's something about the evokation of place and particular time in the protagonist's life that makes it stand out. Oh, there are spankings in it too, more than one, but I think that it is those other aspects of coming of age and into oneself which are more important.

Thank you. That meant a lot to me. I've never understood why the piece never resonated with more people, but that has been part.....along with other things.....of why I have sort of given up any hope of ever gaining popular success. Thanks again for such a public endorsement.

kdpierre
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USA
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#37 | Posted: 21 Feb 2023 13:34
opb:
With regard to the 'leaving the story to rest' idea, I don't know what an optimum time would be. Certainly one needs to edit away furiously during the writing phase, but it's after you think it's finished that the resting time begins. Really you need to leave it long enough so that you can't remember exactly what you wrote so that your eyes are fresher. More than a week I'd say.

We sound very similar on this. I furiously rewrite initially and then when it feels done (I know darned well it's not 'finished') I reread it every or every other day for a week or so and then increase the time intervals. My minimum period for waiting before sending anything in is a month even if I feel it's finished before then.......because I've found that what seems finished in the moment, never actually is.

And I know people think I say this to be contrary, but I also mean it when I say a story should be reread, at least a few times, when the author is not sexually piqued. For me this can sometimes be difficult to manage, but all the more reason to do so. What sounds good turned on is often like what sounds enligtened when high, LOL

warthur
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USA
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#38 | Posted: 21 Feb 2023 18:34
In answer to the question do I write for a living: Unless you're a very well-known and prolific writer (e.g. Stephen King or John Grisham) or you're extremely lucky (e.g. E. L. James), you don't write for a living. In fact, in today's literary world, it is very difficult to get anything published, even in small literary magazines because of the competition. However, that doesn't keep a lot of us from trying. I read and write every day in order to hone my skills. But I have the luxury of being retired. The two stories I referenced I wrote many years ago for a different publisher. I thought the stories had merit and so rewrote them without the spanking. I haven't sent the original stories to the Library, but i may at some point in the future.

As I said before, as a writer, I greatly appreciate the platform LSF has given me and others to create and share. I also greatly appreciate each and every reader and comment.

astrosmurf
Male Member

Denmark
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#39 | Posted: 21 Feb 2023 19:24
Thanks again, Diana and warthur.

Diana, I'll definitely check your story out.

Warthur, have you had anything published outside the spanking genre? I don't suppose you'd like to reveal your secret (non-spanking) identity?

opb
Male Author

England
Posts: 1007
#40 | Posted: 22 Feb 2023 08:02
astrosmurf:
opb:
I have a story that has been in the process of writing for a decade, nowhere near finished

Wow. How long is it? (The story, I mean!)

It's currently 6000 words, but the story (and the characters) are stuck. If you send me a pm I will send you a copy so you can read it.

Funnily enough one of my unwritten story ideas is about an author stumbling into the town where all his unfinished story characters live, and I have to say, they are not pleased with him. I've even got the title. Perhaps they should gang up and spank him?

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