Do spanked husband stories get it right?

Agreed Alef

For such a seemingly simple topic, it has certainly led me to a lot of complicated reactions. On one hand I totally get it. (In fact on a RL FLR DD blog I frequent, I often feel similarly because I feel like I'm the only DD husband who doesn't have an issue with getting things done and not indulging to excess..... whereas the majority there are punished for mostly those things.)

But what about responsibility and taking action when action is required? How "alpha" does someone have to be to be responsible without being disciplined? To me they are unrelated. And how alpha is alpha? If an "alpha" submits to another....are they still really an alpha? Would a true alpha ever submit? What you describe domestically and professionally is not exactly my situation, but very close.....and yet I don't consider myself "alpha". So if you are looking for 'spanked alpha' stories, maybe it's like looking for 'living ghost' stories?

But what of the actual stories you speak of that don't meet your situation? I can't think of too many instances in mine where the punished husband is a perennial slacker. They are often seemingly normal guys who prefer a certain role. But they definitely aren't uber/alphas either. Only a few of mine portray profoundly submissive guys. Most are pretty regular, functional to highly-functional men. What would they need to have done in the stories they occupy to fit what you are looking for?

So what are you really looking for? Regular guys who are capable of action and decision and even have respected expertise in home matters who also submit to their wives? Or an alpha "on temporary vacation"? And if you do a story of someone who submits "on vacation" (I actually have a story like this) the meat of the story is still going to portray the male submitting......because he is. It seems like the 'alpha' part would have to be some qualifier in the male character's exposition rather than some key element in the narrative.

You mention 'spanking as escapism'. That's interesting too. There are all sorts of escapes for a busy, weary alpha to pursue (a vacation to a resort? a cruise on a luxury liner?). And none involve submitting to another for a spanking. The alpha remains the "top dog", even while relaxing from their usual pressures. Choosing to be spanked as an 'escape' bespeaks something different, don't you think? Something "not entirely alpha"?

To do this the situation requires a rationale where the spanker is not really dominant but is just 'giving the guy what he briefly wants'. That could be a good 'guy goes to a pro' story (not my thing), or a 'guy gets his wife to do it.......but doesn't want her to get too used to the idea' (also not my thing). All of the fun in dealing with the mindsets of people who dominate and submit is absent in a story like this because it is important that the alpha maintain his 'alpha-ness'. Where's the fun in that? I'm sure a lot of "otherwise alpha guys" DO go to pro-Dommes for such service......but I can't see reading about such a transaction being much fun. (The story could be very short though: "John was tired from all the work and decision making he'd been doing and so he called up "Wicked Wanda" for a session. He showed up on time and she spanked him hard. Then he paid her and left. The End)

So as you can see the psychology behind all this is complicated and possibly a bit tricky .....or even weak for a fleshed-out story. But maybe the solution is simple: you could take the M/F story you like. Cut and paste it into your documents, edit out the names and switch the genders around....and bingo! Problem solved!

Thanks for the lengthy reply KDP, though I am not sure I agree with some of your analysis.

There are two comparable scenarios:

1. A boy who is usually well behaved and responsible who desires to be spanked and plucks up the courage to ask for one or even provokes one.

2. A women who holds down a senior management position but needs to be privately spanked like a naughty child. The novel Domino Tattoo as mentioned earlier.

You also have to consider the paradox that even if an alpha person submits they are still in control because it is their decision to submit. T.E. Lawrence played with this concept.

In terms of the escapism being a vacation or cruise, that really doesn't satisfy the need of someone who wants something "edgy". There are plenty of intelligent, wealthy people who engage in dangerous sports and often pay the ultimate price for it. They, I feel, are doing it to escape also, in the sense that it is scratching a powerful itch.

I suppose the answer is that I should write a story. I have submitted one some time ago and have others written ready, but maybe I should indulge myself and do a semi-biography?

Wow this thread is deep.. and extremely interesting.
unless I have missed something in the thread I would like to add two small points.

1. Topping from the bottom.
Where the point of the 'exercise' is the sensations engendered by a spanking, living a past experience, or something else along those lines.
2. The Alpha Female.
The idea partner for an alpha male is an alpha female (ok, I'm not certain about that point!) and an alpha female is much more likely to use discipline in a relationship, even with the alpha male.

I, myself, am mostly a Beta male who transitions to Alpha when a crisis situation arises (ex-army Sergeant Major). I am also a switch who enjoys the sensations of a well-smacked bottom (sadly my wife is mostly vanilla - oh well).

My point is, EVERYONE is different and EVERYONE has a unique want/need. We write what turns us on so if its not your thing.. meh! write what YOU enjoy!

Great post Medici.

If you are ex-military and rise to the occasion in a crisis, then I would call you alpha not beta. A true alpha knows how to delegate, let things run by themselves, and only intervenes when things go pear-shaped.

You hit the nail on the head regarding "topping from the bottom", because an alpha will generally create the environment where their personal submission goes in the direction "they" wanted it to.

My wife also took a lot of encouraging and guidance to play the angry Mom/Aunt, but it was me who set the parameters of the punishment I desired. I don't use safe words, but we have set punishment limits and criteria for various offences (contrived or real), all within a domestic scenario.

I suppose you could call it a "1950s middle class home" role playing game?

You make a valid point about alpha males needing alpha females, as my wife (of over 35 years) was also in senior management before she retired, and certainly didn't suffer fools in the workplace.

In light of these clarifications, I must ask: so then what is the appeal of a spanking story for someone who orchestrates everything and then insists on maintaining control over the session? The sensation only? Personally I'd have little interest in such a piece....and I'd certainly never write one like that. And perhaps it's why there are none out there for you to appreciate? I will say that I would be curious to try one if you do write one, Brosse. I would like to see where it goes.

For me a protagonist's journey from standing upright, independent, and safe to bending over a lap is a fertile expanse of complex rationalizations and circumstances. Exploring that diversity is what I devote most of my stories to. The spanking part is almost inconsequential. I can't see any juicy analysis for a protagonist who does not travel that journey.....but I'd be interested to see something to change my mind.

(I also can't help but picture two guys who both identify as "alpha males" getting together and one admits to being spanked by his wife. Perhaps the other is also into spanking but is always on Top. Between the two......who's the alpha? How many 'alphas' can you have in an "alphabet"? )

I have already started writing it KDP. It is not going to be autobiographical per se, that would be too cheesy, but I will try and convey the sense of where I am coming from.

I was hoping my first story would be publish by now, but I know there are genuine reasons for the delays and I didn't get the submission process correct on my side, plus Flopsy kindly picked up some errors in the text.

Thanks, Brosse. I look forward to reading it. You really have me curious!. And don't worry about being too autobiographical. Just mix in the fiction where necessary. But pieces written from experience are always so much better than pure fantasy.

The general term is "AR" (age regression), I believe, while the extreme examples are referred to simply as "AB" (adult babies) on websites I've stumbled across.

However, based on my quite limited knowledge of these areas, spanking isn't much more than marginal in "AR" and generally not involved in "AB" at all. Being helpless isn't the same as being submissive (even if only temporarily), helpless individuals have to be cared for (which might involve being spanked mildly on occasion) while submissive ones need to be dominated, often involving rather severe corporal correction.

As an F/M spanking enthusiast, I prefer adult male spankees who are competent individuals (although not usually 'alpha' types), yet desire to have their behinds tanned regularly by a woman--even if they won't always consciously admit it--and will do what is necessary to ensure that outcome...

--C.K.

You might like A Tale of Two Tannings which deals with a woman spanking her ex husband who is a very successful Alpha Male type.