Spanking Tube

A bit of salt rubbed in the wounds?

That might be your definition, but it's certainly not mine. Mine includes (even features) consensual spanking of adults.

It seems that way, BH. Sometimes the mouth opens and says things the brain wasn't ready for.

Interesting questions. What constitutes real punishment? I don't think age has anything to do with it. Anyone of any age can suffer punishment. If someone is physically restrained and flogged while they beg for mercy, that is definitely punishment. But short of that, there are a lot of gray areas.
Some would say that anytime someone is made to suffer something unpleasant that they don't want, that's punishment. But if someone submits to a spanking as play and they can call a halt whenever they want, is that punishment, even though it could be more painful than a real punishment?
Obviously, someone can want to suffer pain because of masochistic feelings, to please a partner, or guilt, or...whatever. Does the determination of punishment depend of whether they really *want* it? If someone likes playing spanking games, refusing to play and withholding a spanking from them might be a punishment.

And what is "consensual?" I'd say it's consensual only if a person of legal age and sound mind wants to be punished (or play a punishment game). [Then we'd have to define "sound mind." Some would say a person would have to nuts to want a severe spanking/caning.] If someone under the authority of another obediently but reluctantly bends over and presents his/her buttocks to be spanked/strapped/caned, I wouldn't consider it to be consensual if they obey only out of obligation, blackmail, or fear of even worse consequences. But what about mild coercion or bribery?

Maybe we need a "spanking dictionary" to define such terms But writing it could be harder than nailing Jell-O to a wall, and who would be the final authority when there is disagreement?

If you want real, non consensual, google Texas judge spanks daughter ... nothing pretty or sexy about it at all

Interesting points from RyanRowland. Two related bits of grey area would be the blackmail scenario - be spanked or be revealed as a whatever - and the unconventional alternative scenario - the normal punishment for what you've done would be dismissal/demotion/a stonking great fine, but there is an alternative.... And of course in such scenarios there may be a smidgeon of uncertainty about whether the spankee is really reluctant or welcomes a scenario which makes acceptance easy.

The idea of 'punishment' can produce confusing grey areas, even when not involving spanking.

The definition should (IMO) include that it be unpleasant for the person being punished, and non-consensual, but would this definition work for (for example) a spankee who doesn't enjoy the pain of a spanking, but loves the after-effects of having been spanked, and their spanker, who knows this and is prepared to force the spankee to accept an unwanted spanking in order that they can enjoy those after-effects?
Is a criminal who pleads guilty to a lesser crime, in order to escape being prosecuted for a greater one, (and therefore consents to whatever penalty is invoked), really being punished?

How about someone who dislikes a punishment, but accepts it in order to relieve a sense of guilt?

There's the concept of 'consensual non-consent' in which a person agrees beforehand to accept punishment if they act, or fail to act, in certain pre-defined ways - whether or not they consent at the time of recieving the punishment. If the definition of 'punishment' includes that it be non-consensual, are they being 'punished' - or not?

It's all very confusing; I'm just glad that when I watch a spanking video I don't have to figure it out - I can just enjoy the sight of a bottom turning red...!

This goes out to medici. Of course this is not what I want to see in a spanking video. But this is my definition of "real punishment". I see there are several interesting ideas here, all good points. I guess my point is that there are several sites out there claiming "real disciplinary sessions". They are of course not, they are fiction fantasy sites where models are paid to act and most of them quite badly I'm afraid. We will never see any "real punishment" because first of all, none of us condone such a thing although it does take place. Second, to show such a thing is illegal.

Real punishment. All the schools in the Southern United States that allow and do paddle students both male and female. Those same students who are more than likely disciplined the same way at home. Are they disciplined bare bottomed or fully nude? I'm guessing no, most likely not but they certainly aren't consenting to it. The acted out school paddling's on the RealSpankings sites are just that, acted out. However, I will be the first to state that that is probably as close to a "real life" school paddling as you will see and IMHO the best thing Masterson has on his sites. The rest of the stuff, well, you can guess what I think about that.

This has been a very interesting exchange. My experience with spanking tube has been somewhat mixed as well, though I have found some incredibly hot videos there.

On a somewhat different note, has any one ever gotten a computer virus from that site? I think I might have a couple of years ago but am not sure. I would like to return and check the site out again but am somewhat reluctant to do so for that reason.

Hi Bearbottom,

I have gone to the site several times as of late and I haven't experienced any virus problems that I am aware of. Based on my experience I think you are safe to visit the site without any problems.