Stories bordering abuse

I am late to the party, however first off i want to say i am grateful to authors who push the boundaries, and LSF for allowing the stories to be posted.

I enjoy the extreme fantasy in what some view as abusive stories, would i want to be hurt to such levels in real life no, do i fantasise about such things happening to me when i am receiving cp, yes.

I am relatively new here on LSF, so only comment on stories that i enjoyed and state why, i however cannot ever think that there would be a time, where i would feel justified in criticising a author for characters actions, stories here are checked by LSF validaters, so that is good enough for me.

I guess the phrase if you don't enjoy a story then don't read it is appropriate, there is a synopsis, gender of participants, implements used and title of story are all available so a general idea can be got early on whether to read it.

We are free to comment positively or negatively of course, however majority of stories could be negatively critiqued as abusive by some, who see anything except a playful, consensual and non public pat on the fully clothed bottom as abusive.

There has been too much news recently on censoring, please let us not go down that route.

I see your point, Rosie, but the censoring would fall on the Admin staff. As far as I was told by the head librarian, Flopsy, that caution must be used when: Adult having sex with a minor, and a minor's genitals boy/girl graphically exposed in detail in a story. Comments can be opinionated, but they can't censor. Once again, that's up to the Admin. Like I said though, I see your point.

100% agree regarding sex with minor and such like, in no way was i intending to suggest otherwise, that is also clearly in the rules of story submission criteria too.

I used the word censor inappropriately, thanks for highlighting, my intention was just to say that as long as stories are within the LSF guidelines and have been OK'd by LSF admin, then authors should feel able to post and other members should be able to read, stories be they romantic gentler ones or those that take some readers outside their comfort zone.

I guess on a selfish level i would not like a author who despite their story meeting LSF posting criteria, to then decide not to post it for fear of it being labelled bordering abusive, some of us like some stories of that nature.

Exactly so! That is the difference between what I call "light" vs. "dark" fantasies. Many of the stories I've written are light fantasies. Some may contain moderately severe punishments, but have happy endings. I could envision enjoying some of these fantasies if I was really in the position of some of the characters. On the other hand, I can also read or write "dark" fantasies which may be abusive and quite sadistic. But these, I would enjoy only on a fantasy level with the understanding that I would never want these to come true. I am not a real life sadist and wouldn't want anyone to actually suffer such abuse.
I think as long as the two are kept separate there is usually no problem. But if someone starts reading a story expecting a light fantasy and encounters the writer's dark side while envisioning this really happening, it may be quite upsetting.

But if you read any fiction at all, labelled "spanking" or otherwise, you take the risk of encountering someone's very dark side, indeed if you read crime fiction this is practically a given, and neither does the reader have the right to demand an ending which they would define as "happy". A lot of the best books ever written have upset plenty of people!

LSF is one of the few story sites which treats its readers as intelligent enough to see this, and this gives the authors freedom to not have to write to a formula, with very little restriction of "appropriate content".

I agree, and I hope you didn't take my previous comments to say otherwise.
Whether or not a reader enjoys a story depends to a large degree on what they expect at the outset. As you say, a crime drama or murder mystery is bound to have a dark side. Readers expect that and I think usually tend to avoid forming an emotional attachment to the victim (assuming the writer hasn't prevented it by having the victim already dead when the story opens).
Readers of spanking stories may have a wide range of expectations, and if they feel sympathetic toward a character who ends up being abused, they may not enjoy it. But that doesn't make it a bad story. Good writing can evoke a lot of emotions, and happiness is only one of them.

I'm really glad I came to this thread, because I was feeling exactly the same as the original writer, about so many of the stories I was reading being abusive. While I continue to think so, I have a better feel about it - the stories are fiction, not life, and if a story is making me uncomfortable, I can always stop reading it. I grew up in an abusive household (I wasn't abused, my mother was), so reading some of these stories brings back some very difficult memories and feelings. In my mind, the only difference between a bruise on a butt and a bruise on a face is location. While I like playful spankings, I'm really pretty vanilla, and would not last long in a DD relationship - or maybe he wouldn't last long once he went to sleep.

All that aside, I do feel better about the stories I've read which disturbed me, and they are very well written. Like I said before, if it gets too much for me, I'll just quit reading that story. I can still respect the talent of the writer.

There's also the enormously important matter of consent. If someone consents to receive a bruise on the butt, it's a different matter altogether. But often in playful spankings, people like to spice it up by acting as if consent hadn't been given, hence the need for a "safe word" so that the victim can shout "Stop! Please!" without really meaning it. It seems to me, our enjoyment of stories of non-consensual punishment comes from a similar place. We don't believe the world should really be like that, we just like to fantasise about it.


I'm sure that happens all the time. I don't imagine many people would want to read every story in the library - I certainly wouldn't. It's a question of finding the writers which suit you.

I currently have an idea for a story, which popped into my head a couple months ago, that I would not submit here, or anywhere. I simply need to sit down and write it just to get it out of my head (and then delete it). It's an idea that is so abusive that, despite not having written anything yet, I've decided to name the spankee/victim "Girl", and her parents are simply "Father" and "Mother" (I usually put a lot of thought into my characters' names), and have decided to leave the offense for which she is punished unspoken. Because the answer to the question, "What could justify such a horrific punishment" is "Nothing." There can be no justification for the punishment my brain has dreamed up.

But, dammit, I need to write it down just to get it out of my head.

You're just trying to make people curious now.