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frants
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Norway
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#1 | Posted: 24 Apr 2011 13:46
Has anyone noticed any mainstream, literary publishing house printing books with spanking or sm content? Or with a wider range of kinky erotics? I have a paper book fetish. And I like books that are not totally porn genre.

rollin
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USA
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#2 | Posted: 24 Apr 2011 15:44
I don't know of any mainstream books that have a healthy dose of the themes that are popular here. Cfpub's list gives you snippets in mainstream lit, but I think you are looking for more. But there are Spanking Romances published all over the place. See my thread on this in this forum. Saetana has a similar thread on BDSM lit. You can ususally get the paperback version of ebooks from most places like Amazon. Just go to "books" and type "spanking" into the search engine. Vintage books are available at olympiapress.com. Nexus books and Chimera books tend to be more "literary" than mere porn. You might try there.

cfpub
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USA
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#3 | Posted: 24 Apr 2011 20:52
It has long been a puzzlement to me that there seem to be no mainstream publishers who will publish books with a main theme of spanking. While there is an occasional SM work like 9 1/2 weeks, or a polymorphous d/s work including spanking like the Beauty Trilogy, and, Goddess help us the Gor series, and the occasional spanking scene in other books, see my bibliography here in the library for examples -- many examples, a lifetime of obsessed searching has yielded only two novels devoted to what it is like to be a spanko, both by Joyce McIver, The Exquisite Thing (the one I found better) and The Frog Pond.
I realize my only 2 statement is setting me up for refutation, please feel free.

rollin
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#4 | Posted: 24 Apr 2011 21:12
I think you're right. All the rest is erotica of one type or another. Closest call, a novel called Sign of The Scorpion, an erotic mystery.

Goodgulf
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Canada
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#5 | Posted: 24 Apr 2011 21:26
Back in the 80s there was move to get spanking (and other hints of erotica) out of mainstream books. In fact, it was two movements that combined.

The Religious Right (a.k.a. the Moral Majority) wanted all sex everywhere gone. The Woman's Movement wanted to put an end to the exploitation of women. Together, they applied pressure to publishers and organized (or threatened to organize) boycotts.

People like Sharon Green were told to stop including spanking in their sci fi and fantasy novels. People like John Norman were told "we don't care if they sell - we won't publish your books" - which is why the Gor novels disappeared.

It's only been in the last ten years or so that spanking has come back into the mainstream press.

Goodgulf

blimp
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England
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#6 | Posted: 24 Apr 2011 21:53
There is Edith Cadivec of course. Well worth a read, though both her books are autobiography

cfpub
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USA
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#7 | Posted: 24 Apr 2011 23:45
GG,
I think it is too facile to blame the mores of the times. We (or at least I) are not talking of spankings in novels, there have always been many of them and there continue to be, but spanking novels, ie, books built around spankings or spankers in the way that the GOR books are built around the concept of female slavery or 9 1/2 weeks is built around D/S. This, with the McIver exception and the Good Colonel's citation of Edith Cadivec (which I am only vaguely aware of since female spankers are not my obsession) does not seem to exist.
Neither is the sensitivity towards spankings in romances really an artifact of the 80's, every Harlequin ever written leads up to a climatic scene in which the heroine should be spanked, virtually none of them contain the scene and its appearance was rarer in the sixties and seventies than since.
My theory, for free, on the sensitivity towards spanking scenes is that it stems from a fairly wide-spread excitement about spanking, not perhaps to the degree it appears among the patrons of the Library, but definite nonetheless. Thus the reader, and perhaps more importantly the publisher, can dismiss the pony girls in the Beauty trilogy as one of the odd erotic things THEY like, spankings are much closer to one of the odd erotic things WE like. Much harder to deal with.

frants
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Norway
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#8 | Posted: 25 Apr 2011 15:38
Hm. I thought you fellow readers in here would mention a lot of publishers! My friends Niki Flynn and Fiona Locke were published (grr why do my fingers automatically type 'punished') by Virgin and Nexus. But they say these houses have discontinued their series of erotica.
You see, I am not only a reader, I am a writer too, and I have 2 books out where Ds, sm and 'spanking' is central material, on a mainstream, literary label in Denmark. Now I have invested in an English translation of a book that is "more than a spanking novel", but still full of punishment and torment. I will try to upload a sample chapter in this fine library.

 
 
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