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Lonewulf
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#11 | Posted: 16 Sep 2020 20:14
crudcutter:
- Now that potentially opens up another grey area:
Are they really consenting, or just accepting under pressure?
Have they changed their mind once the 'play' started?

Good point.

I'll counter with a (hopefully) better one. Are we talking about children, or adults who take responsibility for their choices?

Personally, I never start out with someone acting out non-con for what should be obvious reasons. If you don't know each other that well, there's the possibility of "oh, you mean you really meant 'stop'???" (that's the reason for safe words, but I digress). My point being, you don't (or shouldn't) go into the deep end of the pool on a first date. I consensually spank, before I move on to non-con role play. If you know what you're doing, non-con shouldn't be a gray area at all.

Something else you don't know about me which might clarify the situation to you, I don't try to convert vanillas, because I don't believe such a thing is possible. If someone says they are into something and lie while doing it, that isn't my fault or responsibility. So there isn't any "pressure."

"I didn't realize you were going to give me a spanking, when you asked me to take a spanking!"
^----Someone I never want to play with---^

curioserto
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#12 | Posted: 17 Sep 2020 08:45
Yes, I have also only ever played a non consenting scene if I know the person well and have already played consensually. Similar argument with restraints although, as I am the person being restrained, I am even more cautious.

I read a wonderful story on here recently where judicial punishments had been re-introduced with unfortunate consequences for one young woman. It was a great fantasy with an amusing ending that led to some light-hearted internal musings in the next few days. Of course, the real life version would be entirely different. There is enough harsh reality already at the moment.

I remember the last birchings on the Isle of Man, when I was young, and it still evokes a sense of horror. There was something about the publicity surrounding it that I found very distasteful and yet, in fiction, I enjoy stories that entail a little (subtle) public humiliation. Having a clear boundary between fantasy and reality is a necessity if one wants to stay fairly sane and balanced.

lesliejones
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#13 | Posted: 19 Sep 2020 02:49
Given the overall performance of our justice systems, it would not be a good idea to return to use of corporal punishment in the justice system, schools, or elsewhere. The likelihood of abuse is too high. It is truly unfortunate, because as, for example, CP is implemented in Jacqueline Scott's fine e-book on this site, The Corporal Punishment Officer, it would be an attractive alternative to jail in appropriate cases. In all the eons when it was used in schools, especially in the UK, abuse seemed common. I do recall how our teachers, when I was in school, were highly arbitrary and unfair in their use of punishment generally, and by the time I was in school, corporal punishment had been banned in most of the US. Our society has not progressed far enough to use CP wisely.

chicagodutch
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#14 | Posted: 20 Sep 2020 14:42
Corporal Punishment can only be between consenting adults. Fetish and fantasy as in my mind and on this website is OK to my opinion. Others (vanillas) think that such dreams are already disgusting, but my thoughts and imaginations are mine and they will stay just my thoughts. But please, keep CP out of the real world society.

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